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penal a people are coddled now. no one wants to hear what the other person has to say, thus the reason we had van's special tonight. i'm glad we had it. i have to go. it's the top of the hour and i have to get to the next hour. we went through the break. i'm in trouble. >> this is cnn breaking news. >> breaking news, donald trump thanking his viewers on his thank you tour in north carolina. this is cnn tonight. i'm a don lemon. president-elect warmly received by the crowd and officially introducing james mad dog mattis to be the next secretary of defense. our other breaking news, a white supremacist talking at texas a and m. thousands of students and other opponents rallying against the address. we have a lot to get to this hour. i want to go live in south
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carolina. trump was joined on stage by general james mad dog mattis. his choice for defense secretary. what did he say? >> reporter: certainly interesting here tonight. this is something that donald trump casually dropped at his rally last week, but certainly tonight it was a little bit of showmanship on the part of the president-elect. formally making the announcement official of general james mattis for secretary of defense and certainly donald trump likes to kind of drop his nickname as he did many times tonight from the podium, mad dog mattis and the crowd responded. at one point he came out and spoke from the podium. here's what he had to say. >> thank you, president-elect for the confidence that you have shown in me. thank you for the opportunity. i'm grateful for the opportunity to return to our troops, their families, the civilians of the department of defense, because i know how committed they are, and devoted they are to the defense
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of our country, the defense of our constitution, and with our allies strengthened, with our country strengthened, i look forward to being the civilian leader so long as the congress gives me the waiver and the senate votes to consent. >> you'll get that waiver, right? you're going to get that. oh, if he didn't get that waiver, there will be a lot of angry people. >> reporter: two things there. mattis emphasizing he looks forward to taking over civilian control there of the pentagon as f he gets the approval from congress is confirmed by the senate. and trump firing a little bit of a warning shot to congress to get this waiver through by way of a little background, mattis is only retired from three years from the military. this is a statute that says they need to be retired a full seven years before they can serve in the pentagon. >> this is donald trump's second stop. he did stay on message, didn't he?
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>> reporter: he did. it seems like he was taking pains to stick on script and really make sure his message ruled the day. we saw a much more restrained donald trump. much more disciplined. he didn't seem to deviate like at his first thank you rally last week where it devolved into almost an airing of grievances. tonight donald trump brought a message of unity. here's what he had to say. >> and we will respect the people's rights. we will respect constitutional rights. and for all america, we will respect our great american flag again. we will heal our divisions and unify our country. when americans are unified, there is nothing we cannot do. >> reporter: so that message of unity coming from donald trump tonight. he seemed disciplined in trying to stay on that message. at one point it was remarkable.
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the crowd started to boo press. an easy target donald trump does like to go against. and donald trump said no, no, almost stopping the crowd. he said maybe they will tell the truth. certainly a much different tone tonight coming from the president-elect. >> thank you very much. i appreciate that. there's also breaking news tonight. a texas a&m university white supremacist speaking on campus. opponents protesting the appearance. we are going to bring in sara gannon live tonight. you spoke to richard spencer today. what did he say? >> reporter: yeah. i spent about an hour with him today. he's clearly feeling energized by the election of donald trump. but he also was notably calm, trying to come off as rational, even smart. while promoting his white premise cy supremacist views, it was clear he's here to recruit young
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people. he feels like his movement is growing. that's why he's going on this campus college tour. he has other campus colleges he's planning on visiting. clearly trying to normalize, appeal to more people. but let's call it what it is, don. he's a racist, plain and simple. take a listen. would you describe yourself as a white supremacist? >> i'm not a white supremacist. >> reporter: but there's no mistaking his racist message sflchl. >> hail our people, hail victory. >> reporter: no matter how much he tries to talk around it. >> the fact is only white people can support what we call western civilization. richard spencer is a self-professed leader of the alt right movement. what would that look like if you had your way in the united
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states? how would you go through a process of removing people who are not white? >> they've come here and, therefore, they could go home. you can go home again. there are ways of whether it's a direct payment. >> reporter: what would you say if mexican americans or african americans said, hey, we're going to pay all the white people to leave and go back to europe? >> an interesting prospect. i'm flexible. >> reporter: obviously that's not likely to happen. he's banned from traveling to most european countries because of his views. you studied history right? a lot of people, the reason they don't like you is because they have studied history too, and they see a lot of the things that you say as being very similar to hitler and other leaders who were responsible for mass genocide. >> i find this all amusing. this is the social justice who will say you're hitler.
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i've heard this. we all live in the shadow of hitler. i think hitler in a way now is history. he did many things that are absolutely terrible that i would never support. >> reporter: spencer says with the election of donald trump his movement is growing and he's feeling emboldened. speaking tonight at texas a&m university. >> donald trump as a potential was undoubtedly energizing. what i mean is the donald trump campaign was the first time in my lifetime that an identity politics for white people was on the scene. >> reporter: the speech here at texas a.m. has draub a furious response. the president of the university said he couldn't go against the first amendment and cancel it, so he argue newsed a rally to give students a place to celebrate unity. >> i think these people
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represent something to an thet cal to what i believe. i think their ideas are just simply reprehensible and abhorrent. >> reporter: why not ignore him? >> i think the attention was there before, but our goal is to say that's not who we are. >> reporter: none of this has deterred spencer, in fact, it seeps to energize him. when you see protests, you get excited like this. >> i'm not delighting in the pain. look, i do drink liberal tears, but yeah, i use liberal tears for cologne. people love conflict. >> reporter: are you trying to start a conflict, or are you trying to accomplishing?? >> look, you know you're making headway when you create intensity. >> reporter: don there were protests here on campus today during the speech. there were also protests inside the room where richard spencer was speaking. and there were times where he appeared to come a little
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unhinged because of the protesters making fun of some people's weight, making fun of mental disability. he sprayed from his message at times. it was tense and chaotic in the room. at one point protesters and people who were there in support of richard spencer lined up face to face and it looked like a fight might break out. it didn't, but police separated the groups and made everyone sit back down. all in all there weren't marn dozen people inside that room who were there to listen to richard spencer because they supported him. >> he said, sara, in your story that this has always been a white nation. has he ever spoken to any native americans about that? >> reporter: you know, he is one of those guys who has an answer for everything. i have to tell you, he is very academically astute.
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he can walk and talk around all of the things that you can throw at him. he's not the kind of person you're going to sit down and have a rational conversation with. i think he's trying very, very hard to come across as smart and calm, and he's trying it appears to move a little bit more away from this nazi rhetoric. i said do you think the video we all saw where he gave a speech in washington d.c. and people responded with the nazi salute, i said do you think that hurt you. he acknowledged it wasn't great, although he down played it and said it was sort of a joke. he has an answer for a lot of things. for example, you talked about the irony. right? we were talking act how bringing people together and technology in my opinion, has been a benefit to this country. it's how we've advanced in a lot of ways, and he pushed back, and i, he said we can have the
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iphone without -- with just white people, essentially, and said, well, steve jobs, his father was syrian. oh, he goes, well, you know, syrians are white people. two sentences before that he was talking about syrian refugees in europe. he's kind of all over the place. but he's trying very, very hard to come across as somewhat normal. he doesn't want to look crazy, and that's where he's, i think, trying to garner some of peel but not looking like an idiot sitting in the chair. >> trying to normalize hate. thank you, sara gannon. great reporting. thank you for that. >> one graduate of texas a.m. says the university community as has a responsibility to capture white nationalism and supremacy. there were plenty of protesters. university officials saying they didn't invite him or endorse his
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message j but the texas of the university saying the right of free speech must be respected. i want to bring in this chief marketing and communications officer at the university. amy, thank you for coming on. this is an important subject. the university is being blasted for allowing richard spencer for coming to speak. what's your response to this criticism? >> don, no member of our campus, our students, our faculty, professors, student groups, invited this speaker to campus. he was not invited by us but by a private citizen who booked a public room that gets booked for boy scout meetings and things like that. and i think this is part of their m.o. they go in with a private citizen quietly. i think this is not the end for public universities throughout the nation. >> how do you feel about the way students, faculty and staff out there tonight protesting handled the situation? >> well, for the most part, i
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think it was good. we had some protesters that came in that were unrelated to the school that i know there were a couple of scuffles. i think there were probably two arrests throughout the campus. with our students, and those were knot nonstudent arrests. with our students, i was proud of them. they were exerting their freedom of speech too which they are entitled to. we had an event here. we had about eight to ten thousand people come to that to hear the president and hear other people speak and be part of it. i was really heartened by our community and responding to this vis vitrial. >> you said you expect there will be more events like this? explain that. >> yeah. i know that the election has brought out a lot of folks.
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and no matter what party you're a part of, i know that the president-elect has disavowed this individual in particular, but certainly we felt it here at this campus, and wanted no part of it. i think it should be something that certainly i'll be sharing. we had some people with other universities come observe today right in the heat of it to make sure that they prepare too. >> we have seen a lot of outrage over this event. how does texas a&m balance align between free speech and keeping students safe, protecting them from harassment? >> well, we have, as i said, we had this aggies you nighted event tonight. we were proud of that. we had a diverse set of groups, and truly the diversity that we have on campus is something we embrace and hold dear. we have core values, and this speaker whose name i will never mention, is in direct conflict with those values, and we do
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have to balance protecting our students with having to adhere to the first amendment with this private citizen who rented a public room on our campus. that's what we did. i was very proud of the law enforcement, and we are very grateful to them to make sure that our students were kept safe. and we are glad that this event is done, to be honest with you. >> a private citizen, but wasn't he a former student? >> he was -- he attended. i think he came here when he was 41 and dropped out at a year. he has a history of trying to book speakers and that sort of thing around the community. in which he lives. usually there's three or four people that show up. but i think the confluence of the election combined with the d.c. footage that we saw of the speaker a couple of weeks ago
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combined with media attention gave them kind of this opportunity to try to get their word out, and we at texas a.m. stood together to get our word out that we stand for our core values. >> amy, thank you. i appreciate it. >> thank you, don. >> straight ahead, should a white supremacist be allowed to speak at a public university, and is a white supremacist message appealing to some college student? we'll talk about it next. the long brown path before me leading wherever i choose. the east and the west are mine. the north and the south are mine. all seems beautiful to me.
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break news measure a white supremacist speaking at texas a.m. university. protesters coming out dpeagains
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his message. let's get into this. good evening, gentleman. matt, as we heard, texas a&m rejected richard spencer's views, but can't ban him because it's a public university. why do you say he should be allowed to speak? >> because of the free speech. i think especially colleges and universities, these are places that i think should be welcoming diverse viewpoints, and believe me, this is a diverse viewpoint. i think it's a horrible viewpoint, but we need to defend and protect the speech, especially unpopular speech, and political speech. i think the way to defeat this is not by silencing and shutting him up. it's by debating these ideas which i think are wrong and evil and bad. >> yeah. richard, john who we have on this show said something that i thought was interesting that we need to embrace the 1980s
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approach to hateful rhetoric. he writes, why assume that spencer has some kind of pote y potency, especially when he doesn't. one thing is clear. if a student attends his talk and the only opposition they hear claims that spencer shouldn't have been allowed in the student's safe space, then that student cannot be blamed for finding the left's position flimsy. do you agree, and what kind of argument or opposition is most effective in rebutting this hateful message. >> look, censorship is never the right message. university can't engage in you point discrimination. >> it is as simple as that. and to congressman jack kingston was on a moment ago speaking about that, matt, and in our universities and our colleges, as reprehensible as this guy's
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views are and what he says, it does need to be exposed and people, that's what freedom of speech a about. not necessarily about hate speech, but isn't it better to expose that type of speech. >> and where does it end? that is the arbitrator to decide what speech is good and acceptable and what speech is bad? obviously, there is a line at some point. >> freedom is speech, the point is speech you don't agree with. >> exactly. we don't have to protect popular speech that everyone likes. we have to protect unpopular speech. >> you've written a lot, matt -- go ahead. >> there's something i wanted to say. his message was reprehensible, but i don't think anyone should underestimate the attractiveness to many people. there's a tremendous backlash in the country going on for years to it changing diversity. a study recently showed that 35% of donald trump's twitter followers also followed white
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spremist sites. i think we make the mistake by underestimating the power for some people. >> uh-huh. very good point. and matt, to that point, you have written a lot about the rise of the alt-right. it's really white supremacy racist. you said he's deviously appealing to college kids. in what way? >> i wouldn't say just college kids. but i would say that first of all, this is a guy who doesn't look like so-- he's charming. he's some would say handsome. he wears a suit. he's incredibly smart and eloquent zbhch eloquent. >> isn't that where most racism is. it's not the extreme views you see so much. >> i think what makes this
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dangerous is the seductiveness of it. and i think he's tapping into something out there that basically says, look, if you're sort of a mainstream white person that grew up in america, you grew up thinking of america as an idea, as a proposition, not a pigmentation, and so what spencer's first strategy first goal is actually to make white people start thinking of themselves, start being race conscious. that's the first strategy here. and they say things like look, why is it that other groups of people can take care of their own? and white people don't? that's the first step here. and by the way, he doesn't talk about white people. he talks about europeans. it's very smart, very shrewd. the group is called like the national policy institute.
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it's not called, like, a name that would be obviously offensive. >> but nothing about why people should go back to europe, but that many other people should go back to the origin of whatever their own ethnicity is. >> let me make one last point if i could, don. spencer is the god father of the alt-right. steven bannon proudly stated his breitbart news under his watch became the platform for the alt-right. one might see bannon as spencer's alter ego in the white house. it's going to wash away over time. i wonder, what's the historic precedent for that? marxists used to talk about becoming a communist you toebut.
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it didn't work out so well. i don't think the vision of nationalism bepeople like banno are pushing is ever going to be free of the taint of naked racism. >> do you think it's fair to put them in the same category? >> i would say my take is not that he cares or that trump cares, but my view of bannon is he's on probation. i haven't heard him say anything. i have not heard stievereven ba say anything i would describe as racist. he has said he wants the site he ran, breitbart to be the platform for the alt-right. that's concerning to me. it's something that i think we need to keep an eye on. he says he calls himself not -- he calls himself somebody who is interested in not white nationalism but economic nationalism. i'm not a nationalist, but i think there's a big difference
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between being an economic nationalist and a white nationalist. >> all right. fascinating conversation. thank you gentlemen. i appreciate it. coming up, the pressure on donald trump to drop michael anyone as the national security advisor, and a reminder the cnn hero tribute airs monday night. ♪ ♪ is it a force of nature? or a sales event? the season of audi sales event is here. audi will cover your first month's lease payment on select models during the season of audi sales event.
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tonight there is growing pressure on president-elect donald trump to drop michael flynn as his national security advisor. jim sciutto has the story for us. >> reporter: general flynn had a distinguished career in afghanistan and iraq. he's also spread conspiracy theories, and was fired from his last military job, but he'll soon serve as president-elect trump's closest national security advisor. people are pressuring donald trump to cut ties. >> reporter: he's capped to be
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president-elect's top advisor, and tonight there is growing criticism his inflammatory views make him unfit for the job. more than 50 progressive nonprofits ranging from religious to social justice organizations signed a letter asking trump to dump flynn. >> islam is a political ideology. it hides behind this notion of it being a religion. >> reporter: citing the numerous islamaphobic remarks including tweeting if n februain february fear of muslims is rational. tonight mike pence praised flirn on cnn. >> we are grateful and honored to have general flynn as our nominee for national security advisor. >> reporter: but the groups raised more allegations. on one occasion while overseeing intelligence in afghanistan, we are told that flynn shared
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classified information from another agency with pakistan. flynn said the allegation is not true, not even close, but there was a ininformal reprimand. even as flynn got briefings, he was lobbying on behalf of foreign clients, among them turkey who he's backed. trump's transition told cnn last month that flynn's dealings with turkey were within his rights as a private citizen and that flynn would sever ties to his consults firm when he's part of the administration. >> i've had people of the media say that's a conspiracy. it's a lie. >> reporter: in his public statements flynn has dabbled in conspiracy theories. just one week before the election, he tweeted, quote, you decide. nypd blows whistle on hillary clinton's e-mails, six crimes
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with children, et cetera. just read. allegations that remain entirely unsub stanchuated. flynn's son who served as his aide has been a leading proponent of a fake news story alleging that a d.c. pizzeria was home of a sex ring. the story led an armed man to enter the restaurant 24 this weekend he claimed to investigate the allegations. he was arrested only after firing several shots. and yet on sunday flynn junior was still defending the conspiracy theory tweeting until pizza gate proven to be false, it will remain a false. the le today flynn junior was dismissed from the transition. the decision coming directly from the president-elect. i've spoken to people who see
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mattis's selection as press secretary as balancing general flynn. mattis respected by both parties and many i've spoken to note he outranked flynn four stars to three when they were both in the military, and that kind of stuff matters. >> jim, thank you very much. donald trump, could his choice for defense secretary balance out concerns about general flynn? we'll talk about it next. once i heard i was going to be a park ranger, i got really excited. gabe's obviously really sick. and there's a lot that he isn't able to do, and make-a-wish stepped in. we had to climb up the mountain to get the injured hiker. he fell from, like, a rock. he's been the one that has been rescued so many times. he said to me, "today, i got to be the hero." (avo) the subaru share the love event has helped grant the wishes of over twelve hundred kids so far. get a new subaru, and we'll donate two hundred and fifty dollars more to help those in need. ♪put a little love in your heart.♪
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while hanking the people of north carolina donald trump introduced james mattis as his choice. but i want to bring in peter, joseph, and simon sanders. and peter, there's increasing concern about donald trump's choice of michael flynn. why would he change his mind? >> i don't think he will change his mind. flynn has been loyal to him from
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the beginning. i think it would be unlikely, and especially because the case against flynn is that he's an anti-muslim bigot. he's said things like islam is not a religion, it's a political ideology. that's a ridiculous statement. he said seer of muslims is rational. these are horrible statements. for a guy who's going to have to deal the muslim countries. donald trump has done those things himself. donald trump slandered american muslims, wanted a ban on immigration. i'm not optimist i. >> this is the position we allow the president to pick unilaterally, someone he trusts. i have to agree with peter. i don't think he switches his pick, because general flynn is someone he has trusted. and i think when we start seeing people like general mattis who can be a balance to general flynn, i think the public should be a little more comfortable with the picks.
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>> do you have an issue with flynn? >> not personally. things he said in the past may have alarmed people, but the position requires the trust of the president, and he's earned that. >> do you think removing his son will quiet some of the critics. >> the son is different. they took the right steps and removed him from his position. >> will trump's pick for james mattis balance out the concerns about flynn? >> i think it probably will. i have a great deal of confidence in all of president-elect trump's picks. i don't have have problem with general flynn. i think that the results of this election says that the people trust donald trump to make these decisions, and i do as well. i think that he has created a team of people who do have diverse opinions and thoughts, and i think that's what america is looking for right now. i'm completely satisfied. >> there are calls to have him
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removed as a pick. >> prayerfully so. i think so. i think it doesn't surprise anybody i don't trust donald trump's picks. i don't think he's made great decisions, and i think general flynn is another bad decision donald trump has made. i don't think donald trump is going to back down. i think he likes the fact that people take issue with something he's done, that recreates a little bit of controversy. it brings that some batti -- combative reality tv feel. we might be stuck with general flynn, but that doesn't mean people shouldn't make us think about it. he's done questionable things. it is absolutely ridiculous. >> i want to talk about other picks, one in particular. this morning mike pence said this about ben carson, the nominee to run the department of housing and urban development.
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>> i think what the president saw in ben carson leading hud is going to be able to carry thes a separational message to every community in this country and create the vision for renewing our cities. >> i think dr. ben carson was like a hero for so many young people across the country. people everywhere that wanted to grow up and be doctors and neuro surgeons, but dr. carson like donald trump is unqualified for the position he's seeking. he said it himself, not himself, but -- someone noticed dr. carson didn't think he was kw qualified to run an agency, now he's qualified to run a hud hud. >> he was saying there are probably better people.
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is that a distinction without a difference? >> no. you know -- >> go ahead. >> i have watched over the last 48 hours the media and the political class do exactly what they did to donald trump, not recognize the fact that they are out of touch. they are actually whoafully out of touch, and the idea that a man who has saw some of the most complex problems the world has known cannot face this challenge is ridiculous. the idea that people say a man who hasover come things dr. carson overcome, to me, i am appalled, and this is an area where i feel like the media, the smugness of the media -- >> okay, i will tell you what i told -- i'll share with you what i told armstrong williams. i seemed surprised we would question someone whether they
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should -- the appropriateness or the qualifications for office. but that's what the media is supposed to do. look at every administration with a critical eye. we even questioned the man who is now president-elect. we questioned whether he was qualified for office. we questioned whether the person who is the president now does qualified. on and on. what is wrong with wondering if someone who is a very accomplished neurosurgeon probably would be better off as surgeon general or maybe over some health department in the country? who what is wrong with questioning whether he's the best person to be the hud secretary? >> i think the questions are fair. it is quite frankly the smugness, the dismissiveness of his qualifications. and so, yes, question -- >> what qualifications does dr. ben carson have to be hud secretary? >> dr. ben carson is a leader. he's a solutionist. this is what -- >> no complications.
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>> one at a time. >> he does. i really respect this panel, but this is what the mainstream media, this is what the consultant class and the political class fails to realize. americans are looking for people who are making -- taking a fresh look at things, making new decisions, and that is why dr. carson is going to be an excellent secretary of hud. >> these are just mindless platitudes. >> these are not mindless. >> haven't noticed any ups or outcry from the american people demanding that ben carson be hud secretary. you keep talking about the fact that he's a great neurosurgeon. look, lebron james is a leader and talented basketball player. >> that's the smugness. >> let me finish. leadership. extraordinary talent in one arena does not necessarily translate if you don't have any
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background in the area that you're working on. this is a management job, and it required the knowledge of hou housing policy. ben carson has given no evidence he knows about housing. >> i think peter is proving the media is out of touch. at various points in the last 18 months a big chunk of the american public believed this person was qualified to president of the united states based oh on experience and education, his raw intelligence. >> what does that have to do with the media? >> i'm saying peter is saying because he doesn't have any specific -- >> let me say this. peter, hold on. you keep saying the media. that's why you're on. you're onto share your opinions. >> i appreciate that. >> i love peter's -- >> by disqualifying them, you're also disqualifying yourself, because you are also part of the media. but go on. >> i just want to say this. i -- >> hold on. stop it. stop it. stop it.
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so back now with my panel. we were talking about dr. ben carson being nominated for hud secretary. so here is the thing that we
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didn't really talk about last night as we discussed this. and i will ask you this, peter. so then why not surgeon general, why not health and human services? why hud secretary? it is believed that he got the black guy job. >> look, donald trump does have a tendency to typecast people. he said jared kushner, his son-in-law should be the envoy for israeli peace. i don't know why he chose ben carson, but it would have made more sense to choose him as surgeon general because the expertise we've been talking about, the fact he understands medicine, he understands the way hospitals work -- >> or health and human services. >> yes, that would have been where he had a particular background. there are conservatives, people that disagree with me that work on housing policy. >> and they do -- i think that donald trump likes his message to black americans. remember, he went to harlem.
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so many people were offended by that, but also the trump supporters and conservatives really liked what he had to say about black america because he talks personal responsibility. >> right. >> and that message is really something conservatives like. >> and that's something ben carson has been speaking, and what speaker ryan said today, he is someone that believes in dignity, not dependence. >> i can't remember the last black hud secretary, i get the analogy you're trying to make. >> saying he lived in a housing -- >> so he is someone who has said that the sort of long-term dependence of people in urban environments is a problem we need to fix. on the flip side, he is someone that used some of the benefits up lift himself out of poverty. >> deana. >> i think first of all the idea donald trump is typecasting and putting dr. carson in this position because he's black, i think that's ridiculous. dr. carson has a heart for this issue, and he is a solutionist and he understands that ground
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zero, we've been fighting this war on poverty for, what, 50 years? hud was supposed to be ground zero for this fight. we have spent $19 trillion and we've not solved the problem. dr. carson recognizes that this is a place to make an impact, and he -- so after he took some time to consider it, this is where he wanted to be. so i think that, you know, again, this idea that because he has not -- he has not -- does not have the direct hud experience does not mean that he will not be a great hud secretary. >> symone. >> let me take this real quickly, please. >> go ahead. i'm running out of time. >> dr. carson spent his entire adult life pulling to teams of experts to solve complex problems in split seconds, like life and death problems. >> yeah. >> the idea he cannot do this to me is ridiculous. i think most of the people who are reasonable, the viewers who are watching will understand that dr. carson -- >> symone. >> is a solutionist. >> last word. >> i want to push back first on the notion people living in
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poverty, and particularly black people living in housing projects are living there because they're dependent upon the situation. there are some people do not have the means, whose circumstances do not allow them to live past that poverty. that's one issue. the second issue is, look, dr. carson isn't auditioning to be an advocate, to be something that's out there talking about housing policy and why we have to build up our communities. this is a job of the secretary, the person who is supposed to lead the organization, lead the bureau. >> i've got to go. >> and to actual change. he doesn't have the qualifications. he ain't qualified. >> he is qualified. >> thank you. that's it for us. thanks for watching. >> i'm excited to see the >> i'm excited to see the results. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com (doorbell) what's that? swiffer wetjet. this is amazing. woah wow. now i feel more like making a mess is part of growing up. only new wetjet pads have absorb and lock
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good evening. donald trump tonight in fay etville, north carolina, secretary stop on what he is billing as a thank you tour. he has been running late. he just stepped on stage and is about to begin speaking. let's listen in. >> thank you. [chanting: trump, trump, trump, trump] [ cheers and applause ] >> so the weather was really bad, really bad, and they said, you know, these are great people in north carolina. they won't mind. no, but they said, they won't mind, sir, if

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